Bible verses about the external nature of the Holy Spirit
Matt. 3:16-17 This happened shortly after Adonai Yeshua was baptized in the Jordan.
>>16 And Yeshua, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of Elohim descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: 17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.<< This is complemented by the verse: Matt.12:18
>>16 And Yeshua, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of Elohim descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: 17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.<< This is complemented by the verse: Matt.12:18
>>Behold my servant, whom I have chosen; my beloved, in whom my soul is well pleased: I will put my spirit upon him, and he shall shew judgment to the Gentiles.<<
Rev. 1:4-6 These verses mention separately: Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
>>4 John to the seven congregations which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from Him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before His throne; 5 And from Yeshua Mashiach, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the Prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood, 6 And has made us kings and priests unto Elohim and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.<<
Rev. 4:5 As the previous quote says, there are seven torches of fire before the throne.
>>And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices: and there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of Elohim.<<
Rev. 5:6 Those seven Spirits of Elohim were and still are in HaMashiach Yeshua.
>>And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of Elohim sent forth into all the earth.<<
The Son’s testimony of the Father’s personality
The doctrine of the Trinity claims that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are one and the same person and that together they form one single Elohim. The Son, while walking on earth, taught us otherwise in the High Priestly Prayer, in which he prayed to the Father. I quote the verses from it: John 17:3-6
>>3 And this is everlasting life, that they may know You, the only true Elohim, and Yeshua Mashiach, whom You have sent. 4 I have glorified You on the earth. I finished the work that You gave Me to do. 5 And now Father, glorify Me with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the existence of the world. 6 I revealed Your name to the men whom You gave to Me out of the world. They were Yours, and You gave them to Me; and they have kept Your Word.<<
When was the Trinity doctrine coined?
A brief overview of the history of that doctrine. Source: Finnish Wikipedia, from which I will translate into English: https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kolminaisuusoppi
>>The word Trinity (Greek: trias) first appears in the writings of Theophilus of Antioch in 180 in the form “The Trinity of God: God, his Word, and his Wisdom.” In Latin, Trinity (trinitas) first appears in the writings of Tertullian (c. –220). In the 3rd century, the term becomes established in Christian usage.<<
Later, the third part of the Trinity, 'wisdom', was replaced by the teaching of the Holy Spirit, and this is evident in the so-called Athanasian Creed. The Athanasian Creed dates from the early Middle Ages - the 4th century - and is erroneously named after Bishop Athanasius (295–373), a teacher of the ancient Church and bishop of Alexandria.*)
*) Read: https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athanasioksen_uskontunnustus
>>The Great Finnish Encyclopedia says: “The actual doctrine of the Trinity is not in the Bible. The development of the dogma of the Trinity was mainly completed in the 4th century. In the West, it was molded into the formulas of the Athanasian Creed.”<<
The reasoning is incorrect in using the word ‘actual’, because the Bible does not teach ‘any’ doctrine of the Trinity, which is a heresy!
>>The Council of Nicaea, convened by Emperor Constantine the Great in 325, and attended by over 220 bishops, reached a consensus that the Father and the Son are of one essence. The Son is not inferior to the Father or a divine messenger separate from him, but together and separately they represent the simultaneous transcendence and immanence of one God.<<
That reasoning is contrary to Adonai Yeshua's teaching about the Father: John 17:3-6 above.
>>Opponents of the Trinity doctrine believe that the Bible does not support the idea of a Trinity (John 14:28; Mark 13:32; 1 Cor. 8:6; 1 Cor. 15:27–28). According to them, the union of the Father and the Son is comparable to the spiritual union of the Church, because the expression is the same in the original language, for example: “But he who plants and he who waters are one; . . .” (1 Cor. 3:6–8). The so-called exaltation Christological view that Jesus only became Lord and Christ in the resurrection also raises questions about the doctrine of the Trinity according to the Nicene-Constantinopolitan Creed (Read Rom. 1:3-4).<<
Those verses clearly show that the words of the original language have been arbitrarily and purposefully quoted. By that the doctrine of the Trinity, invented by men, would have a more believable content.
This is how I understand the mission command
In current Bible translations, there is only one mention in connection with the mission command about the name in which those who have come to faith should be baptized, although according to Mark 16:15-16, baptism is mentioned in addition to faith as another condition for the salvation of the soul*). The verse in question is Matt. 28:19, which refers to a single name, but its accuracy is justifiably questionable in light of the rest of the NT teaching, because it clearly contradicts numerous NT verses**). Read, for example, Acts 2:38, 4:10-12, 8:16, 10:48 and 19:5.
*) I will discuss Mark 16:15-16 later in section B).
**) I will discuss Acts 2:38 and 4:10-12 and 10:48 later, at the end of section B).
**) I will discuss Acts 2:38 and 4:10-12 and 10:48 later, at the end of section B).
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A) Also Messianic Jew, David H. Stern, who translated the Complete Jewish Bible, wonders about the concept of Trinitarianism and mentions the following in his Jewish New Testament Commentary:
- The word Trinity does not appear in the Bible at all and is a foreign concept to Jewish thought. That is why some Jews use the word Triunity instead, because the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit work together! (My note: The word Triunity does not appear in the Bible either)
- Due to this name problem, David has translated Matt. 28:19 as follows:
>>Therefore, go and make people from all nations into talmidim, immersing them into the reality of the Father, the Son and the Ruach HaKodesh,<<
A) Also Messianic Jew, David H. Stern, who translated the Complete Jewish Bible, wonders about the concept of Trinitarianism and mentions the following in his Jewish New Testament Commentary:
- The word Trinity does not appear in the Bible at all and is a foreign concept to Jewish thought. That is why some Jews use the word Triunity instead, because the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit work together! (My note: The word Triunity does not appear in the Bible either)
- In Matt. 28:19 there is a command to baptize "in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit". David therefore asks pertinent questions: What is that (singular) name? Is it the name used in baptism in Acts 2:38 and 8:16?
(My note: In Acts 2:38 the apostle Peter baptized in the name of Yeshua HaMashiach and in Acts 8:16 it is mentioned that those who came to faith were baptized in the name of Adonai Yeshua.)
(My note: In Acts 2:38 the apostle Peter baptized in the name of Yeshua HaMashiach and in Acts 8:16 it is mentioned that those who came to faith were baptized in the name of Adonai Yeshua.)
- Due to this name problem, David has translated Matt. 28:19 as follows:
>>Therefore, go and make people from all nations into talmidim, immersing them into the reality of the Father, the Son and the Ruach HaKodesh,<<
- Finally, David states the following:
There is also a textual problem. Although almost all ancient manuscripts contain the Trinitarian formula, Eusebius, a Church historian who may have been non-Trinitarian, in his writings before the Council of Nicaea in 325, quotes the verse without it. Most scholars believe that the formula is original, but Hans Kosmala ("The Conclusion of Matthew", Annual of Swedish Theological Institute, 4 (1965), pp. 132-147) and David Flusser ("The Conclusion of Matthew in a New Jewish Christian Sourge", ibid., 5 (1966-11-7), pp. 110-119) argue otherwise.---
B) I have read through several different Bible translations in different languages. This is the 49th time and I am now reading George Lamsa's Peshitta translation (from Aramaic to English) and I have read it almost completely. In my opinion, there is also a name problem in the Gospel of Mark. In verses Mark 16:15-16, Adonai Yeshua gave the command to preach. What is strange about it is that it does not say in what name one should baptize, even though verse 16 shows that faith and baptism together lead to salvation, and not faith alone, because faith without works is dead (James 2:26)!
*) (The passage is referenced above) The missionary command: Mark. 16:15-16 reads as follows:
>>15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. 16 He that believes and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believes not shall be damned.<<
We notice in verse 16 that it does not say in what name those who have come to faith should be baptized, although baptism is mentioned in addition to faith as a prerequisite for the salvation of the soul, because according to the letter of James (James 2:26) "As the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead". Therefore verse Mark. 16:16 refers also to the act of faith, which is baptism by immersion.
We must read the whole context of the Gospel of Mark. Then we will see what name our Savior commanded his disciples to use. It was not the artificial name "Father and Son and Holy Spirit", but the name of Yeshua HaMashiach! Let us read verses Mark 16:15-20
>>15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. 16 He that believes and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believes not shall be damned.
17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; 18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
19 So then after the Adonai had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of Elohim. 20 And they went forth, and preached every where, the Adonai working with them, and confirming the word with signs following. Amen.<<
I think that those verses refer to only one proper noun and since verses 17-20 follow the command to send, it is only the name Yeshua HaMashiach that is being referred to.
**) (The passage is referenced above). Regarding verses Acts 2:38 and 4:10-12 and 10:48, it is important to note that the apostle Peter was the most respected of Yeshua’s disciples and was present at the time of the great commission! He performed the New Covenant baptism of those who confessed their sins and came to faith by immersion and is said that he did baptize only in the name of Yeshua HaMashiach in verses Acts 2:38 and 10:48. Furthermore, he taught in verses Acts 4:10-12 that there is only one name under heaven given among men by which they can be saved, and that name is Yeshua HaMashiach HaNotzri.
Unfortunately, in the most current NT Scriptures, the original proper name of our Savior has been replaced by with a derivative of its Greek translation, contrary to the general rule that proper names should not be translated into something other than the original proper name. And when translating proper nouns, the original proper noun should always be used as the source text for the translation.
A collection of some misinterpreted verses
As for the verse Matt. 28:19, which is most often referred to in the Trinity, it is obviously a forgery, because the Acts of the Apostles never mentions that those who came to faith were baptized with the formula "in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit". It is a forgery because it occurs only once, and it cannot be a proper name. Instead, all the apostles who received the mission command from the Savior baptized those who came to faith and confessed their sins by immersion either in the name of Yeshua HaMashiach or in the name of Adonai Yeshua. There are 4 passages in total! The reader must decide for himself whether he believes the so-called 'church-fathers' more than the original apostles.
Regarding John 10:30, it can also be translated as the old Aramean Peshitta (George Lamsa) translates it: "I and the Father are of one accord." This translation is also supported by how Adonai Yeshua accomplished everything - not his own will, but the will of his Father: John 6:38. We are also called to that, namely to be obedient to Adonai Yeshua: John 17:18-21
>>18 As You have sent Me into the world, I also have sent them into the world, 19 and I sanctify Myself for them, that they also may be sanctified in truth. 20 And I do not pray concerning these only, but also concerning those who will believe in Me through their word; 21 that they will all be one, just as you, Father, are in me and I am in you. I pray that they will be in us, so that the world will believe that you sent me.<<
We are therefore called in Adonai Yeshua to a similar relationship with one another as he has with his Father. It is clear without words that no one's personality will then disappear!
Regarding the verses John 1:1-2, here too we can see two separate eternal persons, namely the Father and the Son. In both verses it is mentioned that the Word was with Elohim. The verses therefore tell about the Father Elohim and the Son of the Father, or the Word, who was with the Father Elohim in the beginning. Already in the OT it is mentioned that those (prophets) to whom the Word of Elohim came were elohims and Adonai himself referred to that in the verses: John 10:34-35. There he compared himself to them, although he is greater than them.
Finally, another incorrectly explained point: John 14:7-9
>>7 If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; and from now on you do know Him, and have seen Him. 8 And Philip said to Him, Adonai, show us the Father, and it is enough for us. 9 Yeshua said to him, Am I so long a time with you, and you have not known Me, Philip? The one seeing Me has seen the Father! And how do you say, Show us the Father?<<
If we think carefully, Adonai Yeshua does not claim to be the Father himself, but that whoever has seen him has seen the Father. This is explained by the fact that the Spirit of the Father dwelled in him, which he received internally and upon his spirit during the baptism by immersion in the Jordan. As can be seen from the attached picture, Yeshua is "the radiance of the glory of Elohim and the exact representation of his being." Hebr. 1:3a.
The following attached image shows who Adonai Yeshua said he was (and is even today):
https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=122177626382269452&set=g.267774721937611
The summary was made by Mercado Orlando in the fb group called THE NARROW ROAD some time ago. As for the phrase "Son of Man", Adonai Yeshua was referring to the Messianic prophecy about him that Daniel wrote. According to which he will arrive in the clouds to his Father: Dan. 7:13-14
>>13 I was looking in the night visions. And behold! One like the Son of Man came with the clouds of the heavens. And He came to the Ancient of Days. And they brought Him near before Him. 14 And dominion was given to Him, and glory, and a kingdom, that all peoples, nations, and languages should serve Him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion which shall not pass away, and His kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.<<
Serious Consequences of Embracing the Trinity Doctrine
Today, almost all Christian activities are performed in Churches "in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit" because of an apparently erroneously worded verse. It is: Matt. 28:19. These activities include baptism, the opening and closing of meetings, teachings, the Lord's blessing, Communion, even burials. All of this is because the so-called "teachings of the Church fathers" have replaced the following clear teaching of the apostle Paul: Col. 3:17
>>And whatever you do in word or deed, do it all in the name of the Adonai Yeshua, giving thanks to Elohim the Father through him.<< This is not followed because heresy is being preached in the Churches! Therefore, it is not surprising that Adonai Yeshua is no longer present, because the Holy Spirit only glorifies Adonai Yeshua! The Holy Spirit never accepts or glorifies doctrines that are made up by men and are against the Bible!
Songs suitable for the topic
Please, note: Our Savior's original name in Hebrew is Yeshua HaMashiach HaNotzri
That Beautiful Land
The Old Rugged Cross
Our Father
I Know Who Holds Tomorrow
Come Holy Spirit I Need You
P.S. You can check out the interesting stages of my life from the link below. My life has been a great adventure. There have been successes and setbacks. Adonai Yeshua has always helped me!
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